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NEWS for JULY & JUNE 2001

RAF History Revisited... ;  Turning of the pages at York Minster;    Distinguished Visitors;    

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RAF History Revisited .....

Those "Dams",  "Colditz Castle",  "Dresden",  "Stalag Luft III",  "Berlin" &  "Steenbergen"

The following is a report with photographs, by Dave Taylor, on an historic trip that he and several other York members made at the end of June ....

"I still maintain that zero five hundred is a ridiculous time to get out of bed, even if it is mid June. It seems especially foolish when one is retired. Still, that is what the schedule called for, so that is what happened. We actually departed York at 0650, twenty minutes behind schedule, awaiting a couple who never showed up - probably had more sense.

 Seven hours later we arrived under the shadow of the white cliffs, where a change of coach, two hours on a ferry, a quick drive through France and Belgium, landed us in Eindhoven, Holland. Wow, Continental Europe was passing by so fast we could have been on the Travel Show. For this trip I had elected to share a room with Mel Smith, who commented that I snored; so I do, but Mel should have been on the receiving end of my ears! Not only does he snore, he almost gives a running commentary.

THE DAMS

Next day saw us penetrate well into Germany, our first stop being at the Rheinberg War Cemetery, where we were able to pay our respects. It is here that most of the Dams Raid crews who never made it are interred. In the absolutely glorious sunshine that was to prevail for most of the nine days, the trip continued, the famed Möhne dam being our next stop, where I noticed they had managed to plug the leak. On then to the Eder. With each reservoir now serving as a Mecca for water sport enthusiasts, given the advantageous weather, and it being a weekend, both areas were naturally crowded. Even so, as I have always found when visiting the locations of other wartime exploits, far different thoughts are generated when seeing the real thing, rather than looking at a photograph or reading a report.

The famed Möhne dam today

Left - The Eder today Above - the Eder 17th May 1943.

 

To stare across the Edersee to the point from which those Lancasters hove into view - down the side of Schloss Waldeck, one thousand feet in the air - is to realize what a difficult task those crews faced. They had to make a descending turn to starboard, losing all but sixty of those thousand feet before lining up on a point of land whilst making a ninety degree turn to port. From this moment on they had but a few seconds to set their height and speed and get lined up on the towers. More than a little difficult and dangerous despite there being no flak -just as well, with most of the crews finding the need to make three or four runs before releasing their mine. Then there was the full power exit to contend with, which must have been doubly difficult if you had not yet released your load

Left to right - Representatives of York RAFA pose on the Dam - Dave Taylor, Fred Ullathorne, John Sutherland, Harold Grace, Marianne Sutherland, Mel Smith

 

Departing the Ruhr we now set course for Jena, in the former East Germany. Well across what at one time had been the border, a huge monument could be seen on a far away hill, in an area of spectacular beauty. But my thoughts about it being a place of beauty changed quite dramatically once the name Buchenwald was mentioned. 

COLDITZ

Day three found us in Schloss Colditz, but, given a change of attitude, we found we were free to come and go as we pleased. The upper storeys are at present out of bounds whist the place undergoes restoration; seems some past residents found alternative uses for the floorboards. The ground floors too display signs of the residents not being overly happy with their lot. How anyone could even contemplate a break out from there almost defies belief; if successful they still faced a six hundred kilometre trek to friendly territory. 

Very brave men. All we had to do was walk down the hill, get some "frites" and a beer, and climb on a coach which would whisk us off to Dresden.

 

Left - the first view PoW's would have had of the castle rising above the town of Colditz. They would have seen it like this as the were crossing the river bridge on the march from railway station to the camp.

 

Right -                            

The entrance to the castle

 

DRESDEN

Even with the passing of almost sixty years Dresden still bears the scars, clear indication that the RAF really did a job on this place, damage which the Russians made little attempt to repair. That is now being attended to, the city starting to look quite impressive once more. The Zwinger is certainly impressive. A bit like the palace at Versailles, but this was built for the sole purpose of housing some rich person's porcelain collection; probably the world's largest china cabinet

 

Some of the 1945 bomb damage still remains

Harold, Fred & Mel in Dresden

And they're still re-building

 

STALAG LUFT III - SAGAN

There was not a lot left of Stalag Luft III: some bush and scrub, clumps of trees, the thread of a disused road, some holes in the ground and a few concrete plinths. Nary a sign of Tom, Dick, or Harry - tunnels of the Great Escape. Bisecting the road are some railway tracks, seemingly long-abandoned and now silently rusting and corroding away to nothing. There is a museum at Stalag VIIIC, the camp which housed French/Polish/Russian prisoners, just down the road. This is worth a visit, for it covers the activities of all the camps that were sited in this area. 

Left - The entrance to the memorial near Stalag Luft III which was the RAF POW camp

 

Right - The official memorial with the names of the 50 murdered officers

But not too far distant is what we had really come to see. To me, a previously unheard of memorial that mourns the loss of the fifty RAF Officers murdered by the Gestapo following the Great Escape. This was actually erected by the prisoners of Stalag Luft III themselves, as can be seen by the inscription which ends: "........ in honoured memory of their comrades who died at Stalag Luft 3 during the war, AD 1939 - 194  Per Ardua Ad Astra. That blank space obviously an indication that they expected the war would end sometime soon, couldn't be sure of the year. 

Above - the simple memorial erected by the POW's at Stalag Luft III to honour their comrades.

 

Right - The inscription

Here we held a short ceremony to pay our respects, then departed, charitable thoughts being generated, for, although in not too bad a condition, considering it apparently comes under no one's jurisdiction, we felt this unique monument, a significant piece of RAF history, was in need of some remedial work. It was then decided that we would attempt to get it adopted by the RAFA, and that York Branch members would attempt to contact Polish organisations and the Foreign Office to see if this was possible. This is at present underway, in fact Central HQ have already replied to a letter sent by or Hon Sec, John Sutherland, who says they sound to be very interested. Watch this space. 

 

BERLIN

John Sutherland "going west" at checkpoint Charlie

This must have been day five, for Berlin was next on the schedule, after we had spent an hour crossing the Polish border! Must have though we were escapees from one of the camps. There again, probably not, for it had also taken an hour to get into the country. Almost forgot to mention: it was whilst driving through Poland that we glimpsed four pristine-looking Mig 21's parked up in the used car lot of a petrol station - country must be hard up! And no, one would not have fitted in the bus! Another thing about Poland: they must have the worst TV on the planet, for on every apartment on every block - and in the towns there is little else - each and every balcony had attached to it a satellite antenna, hundreds of them, all perfectly aligned. So much for Poland, back to Berlin.

 Even today, the sudden change between what used to be West Berlin and East Berlin can be a bit of a shock. Although the Wall as such no longer exists, there still remains a clearly defined zone of luxury to poverty. But a hundred metres or so in, and the change is no longer discernible - high class stores have crossed the divide almost as if by parthenogenesis (break out the dictionaries you lot). An affluent-looking city, Berlin. Only that may not be so, for, according to our guide, they are said to be 24 billion Marks in the red - even at around three to the pound, quite a lot of loot. The place is therefore effectively bankrupt. No, not effectively. Well and truly! 

Our full day in Berlin proved to be the turning point for the weather; it rained, though not heavily enough to warrant a visit to the Luftwaffe Museum, at Gatow, untenable; Most of their 120 aircraft are exposed to the elements. There are also good displays in the hangars, WWI to reunification. Well worth a visit, and easily accessible by bus from central Berlin. 

Right - Last of the Luftwaffe defenders - The Komet

 

STEENBERGAN - GUY GIBSON & JIM WARWICK

Day seven saw us heading west through sunshine and showers, towards Holland, with an overnight stop in the Arnhem area. After viewing Arnhem bridge from the comfort of the coach - it was chucking it down outside - it was off to Steenbergen: primary destination on the penultimate day of this tour. 

The headstones

And by the time we reached this site of the last resting place of Wg/Cdr Guy Gibson VC DSO* DFC* and his navigator, Sq/Ldr Jim Warwick DFC, the skies had cleared. We were also fortunate to have as our guides Jan & Connie van den Driesschen, the Dutch family who have tended this site since 1967. And I will reveal no more about this remarkable couple at this time, for Jan mentioned to me that he had written a book on the Dams Raid (De dammen brekers, would you believe?), published in Dutch in 1979. He has just sent me an English translation (unpublished), with additional chapters detailing events in and around Steenbergen towards the end of, and after the war, extracts from which I hope to incorporate in future editions of this journal.

  At the entrance to the cemetery is an old, British GR postbox, ex RAF Coningsby. This houses the visitors' book, which we duly signed. We then held a graveside ceremony, Fred Ullathorne laying a wreath from all at York Branch RAFA, whilst Mel Smith read the dedication. We were joined in this by Jan and Connie, Trevor Booker, our tour guide, and by the rest of the passengers on our coach. 

Left - Marianne, John, Harold & Fred paying their respects to Guy Gibson & Jim Warwick

 

Right - Fred Ullathorne, the RAFA York Standard Bearer, lays a wreath on behalf of RAFA York

The Gibson grave was an integral part of our Ledgers tour, what followed was not. All but commandeering our bus, Jan next took us sightseeing around Steenbergen, directing the driver up streets that could barely be negotiated by coach: the memorial in the park - a Lancaster prop on a plinth, which commemorates both 617 & 106, Guy Gibson's last two squadrons; and the small memorial which marks the crash site of his Mosquito on that fateful night in September 1944.

This is located within what is now the Reinier Polder 1 Industrial Estate, and to gain access we first drove along Lancaster Straat (Street), onto Warwick Straat, left into Mosquito Straat which in turn led to Dambusters Straat, and finally, Gibson Straat. At times it would seem the Dutch are prepared to honour our heroes more than we are. One minor glitch, the plaque on the monument only awarded Gibson a VC, DSO and a DFC, no bars. Better than the original grave though, which was marked by a wooden cross bearing the inscription: 156612 JB Warwick & an unknown soldier. The reasons for this will be revealed in a later edition. So that was Steenbergen. 

Right - Jan & Connie Driesschen - two Dutch heroes who ensure that .... 

"there's some corner of a foreign field that will forever England be!"

 

All that remained now was a night stop in Antwerp, Belgium, on next morning to Calais, a ferry to Dover, and home to York. A really enjoyable tour."

Dave Taylor

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Friday 15th June

Ceremonial Turning of the Pages 

 

At 12.00 Hrs on Friday 15th June members of the York Branch paraded with a contingent of Officers & Senior NCO's from RAF Linton-on-Ouse to carry out the ceremonial turning of the pages in York Minster to commemorate the official birthday of Her Majesty the Queen.  

Fred Ullathorne, the club standard bearer,  led the parade which was watched by a large crowd of spectators inside the Minster

Left - RAF personnel from RAF Linton-on-Ouse & RAFA members from York honour their fallen comrades in the ceremony held in front of the "Astronomical Clock" and beneath the "Five Sisters Windows"

The ornate astronomical clock was created by craftsmen at the Royal Greenwich Observatory, and was given to the Minster to commemorate 18,000 Allied airmen who lost their lives in World War II when flying out of bases in Yorkshire and the North East .  

The Five Sisters Window is dedicated as a memorial to the women who lost their lives in the two world wars. (CLICK HERE FOR FURTHER DETAILS ON THE CLOCK & WINDOW)

The turning of the page was carried out by Neville White who served with distinction in the RAF from 1939 to 1979 and only recently retired as the York Branch Standard Bearer.

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The page is a page in a book containing the names of the  allied airmen who lost their lives in World War II when flying out of bases in Yorkshire and the North East.  A page is turned every day of the year.  This is normally carried out by a Minster Policeman, but 4 times a year the RAF & RAFA turn out in full ceremony to honour their fallen comrades

 

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THIS MONTHS DISTINGUISHED VISITORS

 

John "Sandy" Milne

At the Club Dining In night on Saturday 2nd June we were pleased to welcome a number of guests.  Special amongst them was "Sandy" Milne a former Whitley and Halifax pilot who first served at RAF Linton-on-Ouse 60 years ago in 1941.  "Sandy" did a full tour on Whitleys with 58 Squadron before converting to Halfax's and joining 35 Squadron as a pathfinder. 

Left - (Left to right) Sandy Milne, "Lennie" Sandy's sister (A retired WAAF Squadron Officer) and Dick Shuster (RAFALO still serving at Linton-on-Ouse)

 

Here are a few entries from Sandy's log book dating back to 1941 his days at Linton  ....

 

Z 6575 GE-B. T/O 21.53 - 0610 Hamburg. Attacked primary target at 01.40. Bombs fell in the Dock area SW of Dace. Incendiaries started fires and could be seen 20 mins after A/C left. 4 flares failed to ignite. S.O.S. sent short on fuel. Managed  to make Driffield.

 Sept. 29/30.
Z 5841 GE-F T/O 18.59 - 23.55 Stettin. Returned early generator trouble and icing up. Jettisoned bombs in sea. Power failure at 10,000 feet. Glided from 10,000 to 5000 feet before engines picked up.
 Nov.10/11
T 4210 GE-C T/O 17.28 - 00.22. Keil. Bombed Hornum Seaplane base at Sylt at 20.50 from 17,000 feet. Starboard oil pressure down to 35 lbs/ sq in. Feather engine and returned on one engine.
 Nov. 8/9
T/O 18.06 - 20.55. Essen. Abandoned due to engine trouble - no intercom. Attacked flare path at De Koot A/D. Holed by flack and then attacked by 3 JU88's. Landed Swanton Morley with port engine on fire.

 

 End of May 1941 collected a drogue towing Whitley from Landewrig in Wales  for 1st 1000 bomber raid on cologne.   The story of that is in the Book " Operation Millennium "

...... does it make being a pilot at Linton-on Ouse these days seem a bit tame???

 

TWO Ex-POW's MEET AT THE CLUB AFTER OVER 55 YEARS

 

A visitor to the club in May was Mike Isherwood-Bennett (left) a former wartime Spitfire pilot who now lives in the Isle of Man. 

Mike was shot down and taken prisoner in 1942 eventually ending up In Stalagluft VI at Heydekrug. Coincidentally York club member Peter Carmichal (right), a former Lancaster pilot was shot down in 1944, and was also held in Stalagluft VI.  

 

Despite it being over 50 years since their last meeting, they remembered each other from their days behind the wire. Needless to say the evening was spent reminiscing.

It was in 1942 ,when Mike was flying Spitfire V's with 64 Squadron, that he became a POW. 

On 17th May 1942,  he was returning from a "rubbarb" when, just off Cap Gris Nez he had the misfortune of being bounced by 4 ME109's. Unfortunately one got the better of Mike and shot away the controls on his Spitfire forcing him to ditch. His aircraft sank immediately, but Mike managed to get out underwater and bobbed to the surface using his inflated lifejacket. Undaunted he started swimming towards England. He managed to keep going for over 4 hours before being picked up by the Germans.

After some fairly heavy interrogation, because they didn't believe he could have escaped from the downed Spitfire four hours earlier, Mike was sent to Dulagluft near Frankfurt-am-Main before initial incarceration in Stalagluft III at Sagan (The camp of "Great Escape" fame).  He was moved to Stalagluft VI in 1944 which was when he first met Peter.

Peter Carmichal (left) jokingly pointing out the best way for a fighter pilot to get back to England.  Swimming was definitely not the recommended way!

Mike (right) can now enjoy the joke - but back in 1942 it somehow didn't seem so funny....

However Mike is very proud of his membership of the "Goldfish" Club which he pointed out is more exclusive than  the "Caterpiller" Club, of which Peter is member!

 

Tempus Fugit!

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"Goldfish Club" & "Caterpiller Club"

Mike has kindly sent us a copy of one of his most prized possessions ..... his endorsed  "Goldfish Club" membership card. He is one of the few surviving wartime members of the Goldfish club -    Is he the only one with a "Mae West" endorsement? - Please let us know!

The card reads - (horizontally)  "This is to certify that  ~ W/O M.S.Bennett ~ has qualifiedas a member of the Goldfish Club by escaping death by the use of his emergency dinghy 0n ~ 17th May 1942

(vertically in red) "ENDORSED MEMBERSHIP ~ Membership granted due to W/O Bennett having saved his life by the use of his 'Mae West'. "

 

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